1985 Cadillac Eldorado Exhaust Parts

Essential 1985 Cadillac Eldorado Exhaust Parts

Flowtech – Terminator; Exhaust Tips (Part No.59905FLT)

Terminator; Exhaust Tips

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$85.99


Product Features:
  • Show Quality Chrome Platinum
  • Durable Black Finish
  • Can Be Welded Or Clamped
  • Complete The System
  • Glass-Packed Resonators
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Walker – Tail Pipe Aluminized 11" (Part No.41206)

Tail Pipe Aluminized 11"

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$23.79
Made from aluminized steel for durability, Walker® premium pipe is manufactured with precision benders and fixture checked to ensure a precise fit for quick and easy installation.

Product Features:
  • RESISTS CORROSION — Durable aluminized steel construction for corrosion resistance and performance
  • EASY TO INSTALL — Manufactured with precision bends and OE-style routings, hangers and connectors for easy installation (where applicable)
  • OE-STYLE PERFORMANCE — Direct-fit design is fixture checked to ensure a precise fit that performs like original equipment
  • BETTER TOGETHER — Use premium Walker accessories when installing Walker catalytic converters and mufflers for a complete exhaust system upgrade
  • AVAILABLE IN DIFFERENT SIZES — Offered in a variety of lengths and diameters and features the appropriate Inlet Diameter (I.D.) – Outlet Diameter (O.D.) connection; see product specifications for more information
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Felpro – Exhaust Bolt and Spring (Part No.ES 72141)

Exhaust Bolt and Spring

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$17.29
Fel-Pro gaskets offer 100% vehicle sealing with application-specific materials to give you sealing solutions with the performance and durability professionals trust

Product Features:
  • Meets or exceeds all original equipment specifications
  • Application specific design to ensure a perfect fit
  • Engineered for the sealing repair environment
  • Validated for fit, form and function
  • Unsurpassed quality you can trust
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Walker – SoundFX Muffler, Universal/ Fabrication Needed (Part No.18112)

SoundFX Muffler, Universal/ Fabrication Needed

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$83.99
Featuring 100% aluminized steel for longer service life compared to low-carbon steel, Walker SoundFX® universal mufflers deliver quality appearance and favorable acoustics while mechanical interior joints and spun-locked heads provide durability.

Product Features:
  • RESISTS CORROSION — Aluminized steel construction and internal drainage system helps reduce corrosion
  • BUILT TO LAST — Internal partitions and mechanically joined tubes allow expansion and contraction during temperature changes to minimize distortion while spun-locked heads and OE-style spot welds provide stability and longer service life
  • FLEXIBLE SOLUTION — Customizable design features expandable bushings for easy fitment and may require specialized fabrication and/or welding for installation
  • FACTORY SOUND — Louvered tubes help reduce radiated noise for factory-style sound quality compared to straight perforated tubes
  • GET MORE MILES FROM YOUR MUFFLER — Designed and tested to extend muffler life
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Walker – SoundFX Muffler, Universal/ Fabrication Needed (Part No.18113)

SoundFX Muffler, Universal/ Fabrication Needed

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$90.99
Featuring 100% aluminized steel for longer service life compared to low-carbon steel, Walker SoundFX® universal mufflers deliver quality appearance and favorable acoustics while mechanical interior joints and spun-locked heads provide durability.

Product Features:
  • RESISTS CORROSION — Aluminized steel construction and internal drainage system helps reduce corrosion
  • BUILT TO LAST — Internal partitions and mechanically joined tubes allow expansion and contraction during temperature changes to minimize distortion while spun-locked heads and OE-style spot welds provide stability and longer service life
  • FLEXIBLE SOLUTION — Customizable design features expandable bushings for easy fitment and may require specialized fabrication and/or welding for installation
  • FACTORY SOUND — Louvered tubes help reduce radiated noise for factory-style sound quality compared to straight perforated tubes
  • GET MORE MILES FROM YOUR MUFFLER — Designed and tested to extend muffler life
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Walker – Extension Pipe Aluminized 21" (Part No.42556)

Extension Pipe Aluminized 21"

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$54.99
Made from aluminized steel for durability, Walker® premium pipe is manufactured with precision benders and fixture checked to ensure a precise fit for quick and easy installation.

Product Features:
  • RESISTS CORROSION — Durable aluminized steel construction for corrosion resistance and performance
  • EASY TO INSTALL — Manufactured with precision bends and OE-style routings, hangers and connectors for easy installation (where applicable)
  • OE-STYLE PERFORMANCE — Direct-fit design is fixture checked to ensure a precise fit that performs like original equipment
  • BETTER TOGETHER — Use premium Walker accessories when installing Walker catalytic converters and mufflers for a complete exhaust system upgrade
  • AVAILABLE IN DIFFERENT SIZES — Offered in a variety of lengths and diameters and features the appropriate Inlet Diameter (I.D.) – Outlet Diameter (O.D.) connection; see product specifications for more information
  • COMPATIBILITY — Ideal for weld or clamp installations
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Walker – Intermediate Pipe Aluminized 39" (Part No.44703)

Intermediate Pipe Aluminized 39"

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$34.49
Made from aluminized steel for durability, Walker® premium pipe is manufactured with precision benders and fixture checked to ensure a precise fit for quick and easy installation.

Product Features:
  • RESISTS CORROSION — Durable aluminized steel construction for corrosion resistance and performance
  • EASY TO INSTALL — Manufactured with precision bends and OE-style routings, hangers and connectors for easy installation (where applicable)
  • OE-STYLE PERFORMANCE — Direct-fit design is fixture checked to ensure a precise fit that performs like original equipment
  • BETTER TOGETHER — Use premium Walker accessories when installing Walker catalytic converters and mufflers for a complete exhaust system upgrade
  • AVAILABLE IN DIFFERENT SIZES — Offered in a variety of lengths and diameters and features the appropriate Inlet Diameter (I.D.) – Outlet Diameter (O.D.) connection; see product specifications for more information
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Walker – Exhaust 21687 Exhaust Resonator (Part No.21687)

Exhaust 21687 Exhaust Resonator

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$66.99
Designed to fit, perform and sound like the original system, Walker® resonators use precise tuning technologies to deliver excellent flow characteristics and OE-style sound.

Product Features:
  • RESISTS CORROSION — Durable aluminized steel construction and helps reduce corrosion
  • FACTORY SOUND — OE-style louvered tubes (where applicable) help reduce radiated noise for factory-style sound
  • FLEXIBLE SOLUTION — Customizable design for easy fitment and may require specialized fabrication and/or welding for installation
  • STRONG AND DURABLE — Features thick OE-style flanges, hardware and brackets for strength
  • GET MORE MILES FROM YOUR RESONATOR — Engineered to fit, perform and sound like the original system
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Walker – Exhaust 22140 Exhaust Resonator (Part No.22140)

Exhaust 22140 Exhaust Resonator

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$95.99
Designed to fit, perform and sound like the original system, Walker® resonators use precise tuning technologies to deliver excellent flow characteristics and OE-style sound.

Product Features:
  • RESISTS CORROSION — Durable aluminized steel construction and helps reduce corrosion
  • FACTORY SOUND — OE-style louvered tubes (where applicable) help reduce radiated noise for factory-style sound
  • FLEXIBLE SOLUTION — Customizable design for easy fitment and may require specialized fabrication and/or welding for installation
  • STRONG AND DURABLE — Features thick OE-style flanges, hardware and brackets for strength
  • GET MORE MILES FROM YOUR RESONATOR — Engineered to fit, perform and sound like the original system
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Walker – Clamp U-Bolt Bolt Dia 0.375 Length Nut Type Hex Pipe Dia 2.25 (Part No.35336)

Clamp U-Bolt Bolt Dia 0.375 Length Nut Type Hex Pipe Dia 2.25

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$2.49
Complete your exhaust repair with an Exhaust Mate® U-bolt clamp. Designed to ensure a tight, leak-resistant connection, Exhaust Mate hardware is manufactured from durable and robust material for long service life.

Product Features:
  • CONNECTS EXHAUST PARTS — Provides secure, leak-resistant connection
  • AVAILABLE IN DIFFERENT SIZES — Offered in a variety of styles and sizes for a quality vehicle repair
  • PREMIUM MATERIALS – Made from quality material for durability and long life
  • BETTER TOGETHER — Use Walker® accessories when installing catalytic converters and mufflers for a complete exhaust system upgrade
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Walker – Clamp U-Bolt Bolt Dia 0.375 Length Nut Type Hex Pipe Dia 2.5 (Part No.35337)

Clamp U-Bolt Bolt Dia 0.375 Length Nut Type Hex Pipe Dia 2.5

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$8.99
Complete your exhaust repair with an Exhaust Mate® U-bolt clamp. Designed to ensure a tight, leak-resistant connection, Exhaust Mate hardware is manufactured from durable and robust material for long service life.

Product Features:
  • CONNECTS EXHAUST PARTS — Provides secure, leak-resistant connection
  • AVAILABLE IN DIFFERENT SIZES — Offered in a variety of styles and sizes for a quality vehicle repair
  • PREMIUM MATERIALS – Made from quality material for durability and long life
  • BETTER TOGETHER — Use Walker® accessories when installing catalytic converters and mufflers for a complete exhaust system upgrade
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Walker – Clamp Wire Ring Bolt Dia 0.375 Length Nut Type Hex Pipe Dia 2.75 (Part No.35510)

Clamp Wire Ring Bolt Dia 0.375 Length Nut Type Hex Pipe Dia 2.75

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$33.99
Walker®, with our worldwide OE partnerships and manufacturing facilities, possesses the technical excellence needed to meet today’s emissions control needs, while developing solutions for tomorrow’s challenges. Walker® is a ‘one-stop’ convenience, offerin

Product Features:
  • Walker offers a variety of clamp styles and sizes for your installation needs
  • Helps to ensure a leak-free connection
  • Constructed from durable and robust material for long life
  • New Walker® accessories help to ensure effective exhaust repairs
  • Walker® supplies all of the accessories you need to do the complete exhaust job
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Walker – Hanger Length 2.25 (Part No.35148)

Hanger Length 2.25

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$11.99
Complete your exhaust repair with Walker® exhaust hangers. Designed with OE-style features to support undercar exhaust components, Walker hangers are manufactured from durable and robust material for long service life.

Product Features:
  • KEEPS EXHAUST PARTS IN PLACE — Designed to support undercar exhaust components
  • OE DESIGN — Designed with OE-style features for easy installation
  • AVAILABLE IN DIFFERENT SIZES — Offered in a variety of styles and sizes for a quality vehicle repair
  • PREMIUM MATERIALS — Made from quality steel for durability and long life
  • BETTER TOGETHER — Use premium Walker accessories when installing Walker catalytic converters and mufflers for a complete exhaust system upgrade
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Dorman – Help – Exhaust Flange Spring-0.825 OD x 1.135 ID x 1.57 And 0.5 ID X .75 x OD 1.13 In. (Part No.03084)

Exhaust Flange Spring-0.825 OD x 1.135 ID x 1.57 And 0.5 ID X .75 x OD 1.13 In.

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$7.99
Designed for an exact fit, our Exhaust Spring provides you with the proper flange spring for replacing the manifold. Save time and energy by having the right hardware on hand when you need it.

Product Features:
  • Constructed of durable spring steel
  • Rust and corrosion resistant
  • Also available in a kit that include the Exhaust Manifold Bolt
  • Easy installation
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Walker – Exhaust 35281 Exhaust Spring (Part No.35281)

Exhaust 35281 Exhaust Spring

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$6.49
Walker®, with our worldwide OE partnerships and manufacturing facilities, possesses the technical excellence needed to meet today’s emissions control needs, while developing solutions for tomorrow’s challenges. Walker® is a ‘one-stop’ convenience, offerin

Product Features:
  • Walker offers a variety of fastener styles and sizes for your installation needs
  • Walker fasteners provide OE-style design for easy use
  • Manufactured from premium steel for durability
  • Designed to work seamlessly with Walker aftermarket replacement parts
  • Walker® supplies all of the accessories you need to do the complete exhaust job
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Felpro – Exhaust Pipe Flange Gasket (Part No.61009)

Exhaust Pipe Flange Gasket

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$10.29
Fel-Pro gaskets offer 100% vehicle sealing with application-specific materials to give you sealing solutions with the performance and durability professionals trust

Product Features:
  • Meets or exceeds all original equipment specifications
  • Application specific design to ensure a perfect fit
  • Engineered for the sealing repair environment
  • Unsurpassed quality you can trust
  • Validated for fit, form, and function
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Felpro – Exhaust Pipe Flange Gasket (Part No.9558)

Exhaust Pipe Flange Gasket

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$4.79
Fel-Pro gaskets offer 100% vehicle sealing with application-specific materials to give you sealing solutions with the performance and durability professionals trust

Product Features:
  • Meets or exceeds all original equipment specifications
  • Application specific design to ensure a perfect fit
  • Engineered for the sealing repair environment
  • Unsurpassed quality you can trust
  • Validated for fit, form, and function
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Felpro – Exhaust Pipe Flange Gasket (Part No.60538)

Exhaust Pipe Flange Gasket

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$10.29
Fel-Pro gaskets offer 100% vehicle sealing with application-specific materials to give you sealing solutions with the performance and durability professionals trust

Product Features:
  • Meets or exceeds all original equipment specifications
  • Application specific design to ensure a perfect fit
  • Engineered for the sealing repair environment
  • Unsurpassed quality you can trust
  • Validated for fit, form, and function
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Walker – Catalytic Converter- EPA Ultra, Universal/ Fabrication Needed (Part No.93304)

Catalytic Converter- EPA Ultra, Universal/ Fabrication Needed

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$319.99
Designed to comply with EPA emissions requirements while delivering premium performance and durability with assured compliance, Walker® Ultra® Universal Catalytic Converters are available for import and domestic OBDII (1996 and newer) vehicles.

Product Features:
  • EPA COMPLIANT — For use on OBDII vehicles, 1996 and newer. Not legal for sale or use in CA, CO & NY. Legal in ME on EPA Federal Emission Equipped Vehicles only. Consult your state’s aftermarket converter regulations for details.
  • KEEPS CHECK ENGINE LIGHT OFF FOR EMISSIONS CODES — OE-style high-technology washcoat and optimal precious metal load delivers required reduction in tailpipe emissions to match vehicle application
  • DURABLE — Features stainless-steel body with aluminized pipe and heat shields for durability
  • FLEXIBLE SOLUTION — Customizable design features expandable bushings for easy fitment and may require specialized fabrication and/or welding for installation
  • OE-STYLE DESIGN — Features aluminized heat shields when originally equipped, to match OE design, protecting the undercarriage from heat created by the converter
  • BUY WITH CONFIDENCE — Backed by Walker’s 25,000-mile/40,000-kilometer emissions and 5-year 50,000-mile/80,000-kilometer structural integrity warranty. Visit Walkerexhaust.com for details.
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MagnaFlow – Standard Grade Federal / EPA Compliant Universal Catalytic Converter (Part No.94009)

Standard Grade Federal / EPA Compliant Universal Catalytic Converter

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$119.99
MagnaFlow Standard Grade Federal/EPA Compliant Universal Catalytic Converter 94009 helps keep the check engine light off. Get the right fit for a wide array of vehicles thanks to the adaptable Universal design (cutting and welding is required). With highly corrosion resistant, stainless steel construction, you can have confidence in the quality of this catalytic converter. This replacement part is designed to meet or exceed Federal emissions requirements set forth by the EPA, complying with legal standards for pre-OBDII Federally registered vehicles.

Product Features:
  • Expertly formulated catalyst blend maximizes efficiency, ensuring optimal emissions control to keep your check engine light off.
  • Compact, lightweight construction enables installation in confined areas, welding is required.
  • Your trusted source for EPA-compliant catalytic converters, providing assurance of genuine compliance while delivering quality that will last.
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Walker – Catalytic Converter- EPA Ultra, Direct Replacement, No Fabrication Needed (Part No.15818)

Catalytic Converter- EPA Ultra, Direct Replacement, No Fabrication Needed

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$639.99
Designed to comply with EPA standards while delivering premium performance with assured compliance, Walker® Ultra® Direct-Fit Catalytic Converters provide premium performance and are available for import and domestic OBDII (1996 and newer) vehicles.

Product Features:
  • EPA COMPLIANT — For use on pre-OBDII vehicles, 1995 and older. Not legal for sale or use in CA, CO and NY. Legal in ME on all pre-OBD vehicles only. Consult your state’s aftermarket converter regulations for details.
  • DIRECT-FIT DESIGN — Direct-fit bolt-on replacement solution with OE-style hangers, brackets, routings and heat shields for easy installation that doesn’t require specialized fabrication and/or welding
  • KEEPS CHECK ENGINE LIGHT OFF FOR EMISSIONS CODES — OE-style high-technology washcoat and optimal precious metal load delivers required reduction in tailpipe emissions to match vehicle application
  • STRONG AND DURABLE — Features thick OE-style flanges, hangers and brackets for strength and durability
  • OE-STYLE DESIGN — Features aluminized heat shields when originally equipped, to match OE design, protecting the undercarriage from heat created by the converter
  • BUY WITH CONFIDENCE — Backed by Walker’s 25,000-mile/40,000-kilometer emissions and 5-year 50,000-mile/80,000-kilometer structural integrity warranty. Visit Walkerexhaust.com for details.
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Walker – Exhaust 31865 Exhaust Flange. (Part No.31865)

Exhaust 31865 Exhaust Flange.

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$14.29
Walker®, with our worldwide OE partnerships and manufacturing facilities, possesses the technical excellence needed to meet today’s emissions control needs, while developing solutions for tomorrow’s challenges. Walker® is a ‘one-stop’ convenience, offerin

Product Features:
  • Offered in a variety of styles and sizes for your installation needs
  • High quality material helps to ensure a leak-free connection
  • New Walker® accessories help to ensure effective exhaust repairs
  • Designed to work seamlessly with Walker aftermarket replacement parts
  • Walker® supplies all of the accessories you need to do the complete exhaust job
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Walker – Exhaust 31882 Exhaust Flange. (Part No.31882)

Exhaust 31882 Exhaust Flange.

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$16.49
Walker®, with our worldwide OE partnerships and manufacturing facilities, possesses the technical excellence needed to meet today’s emissions control needs, while developing solutions for tomorrow’s challenges. Walker® is a ‘one-stop’ convenience, offerin

Product Features:
  • Offered in a variety of styles and sizes for your installation needs
  • High quality material helps to ensure a leak-free connection
  • New Walker® accessories help to ensure effective exhaust repairs
  • Designed to work seamlessly with Walker aftermarket replacement parts
  • Walker® supplies all of the accessories you need to do the complete exhaust job
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Felpro – Exhaust Manifold Gasket Set (Part No.MS 93371)

Exhaust Manifold Gasket Set

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$21.49
Fel-Pro gaskets offer 100% vehicle sealing with application-specific materials to give you sealing solutions with the performance and durability professionals trust

Product Features:
  • Meets or exceeds all original equipment specifications
  • Application specific design to ensure a perfect fit
  • Engineered for the sealing repair environment
  • Unsurpassed quality you can trust
  • Validated for fit, form, and function
  • Contains all gaskets and seals to remove and replace exhaust manifold
  • Contains all gaskets and seals to remove and replace exhaust manifold
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Felpro – Exhaust Manifold Gasket Set (Part No.MS 90508)

Exhaust Manifold Gasket Set

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$11.49
Fel-Pro gaskets offer 100% vehicle sealing with application-specific materials to give you sealing solutions with the performance and durability professionals trust

Product Features:
  • Meets or exceeds all original equipment specifications
  • Application specific design to ensure a perfect fit
  • Engineered for the sealing repair environment
  • Unsurpassed quality you can trust
  • Validated for fit, form, and function
  • Contains all gaskets and seals to remove and replace exhaust manifold
  • Contains all gaskets and seals to remove and replace exhaust manifold
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Felpro – Exhaust Manifold Gasket Set (Part No.MS 91384)

Exhaust Manifold Gasket Set

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$18.29
Fel-Pro gaskets offer 100% vehicle sealing with application-specific materials to give you sealing solutions with the performance and durability professionals trust

Product Features:
  • Meets or exceeds all original equipment specifications
  • Application specific design to ensure a perfect fit
  • Engineered for the sealing repair environment
  • Unsurpassed quality you can trust
  • Validated for fit, form, and function
  • Contains all gaskets and seals to remove and replace exhaust manifold
  • Contains all gaskets and seals to remove and replace exhaust manifold
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Felpro – Exhaust Manifold Gasket Set (Part No.MS 94250)

Exhaust Manifold Gasket Set

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$11.99
Fel-Pro gaskets offer 100% vehicle sealing with application-specific materials to give you sealing solutions with the performance and durability professionals trust

Product Features:
  • Meets or exceeds all original equipment specifications
  • Application specific design to ensure a perfect fit
  • Engineered for the sealing repair environment
  • Unsurpassed quality you can trust
  • Validated for fit, form, and function
  • Contains all gaskets and seals to remove and replace exhaust manifold
  • Contains all gaskets and seals to remove and replace exhaust manifold
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Felpro – Exhaust Manifold Gasket Set (Part No.MS 90021)

Exhaust Manifold Gasket Set

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$11.49
Fel-Pro gaskets offer 100% vehicle sealing with application-specific materials to give you sealing solutions with the performance and durability professionals trust

Product Features:
  • Meets or exceeds all original equipment specifications
  • Application specific design to ensure a perfect fit
  • Engineered for the sealing repair environment
  • Unsurpassed quality you can trust
  • Validated for fit, form, and function
  • Contains all gaskets and seals to remove and replace exhaust manifold
  • Contains all gaskets and seals to remove and replace exhaust manifold
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1985 Cadillac Eldorado Exhaust Parts

You count on your 1985 Cadillac Eldorado to run right. That means taking care of it with regular maintenance, necessary repairs, and the right parts. Advance Auto Parts can help with all of that thanks to our extensive inventory of trusted Exhaust Parts. With 22 Exhaust Parts ranging in price from $1.99 to $304.99, you’re sure to find everything you need for your 1985 Cadillac Eldorado.

Brands matter. If you want to shop a specific Exhaust Parts brand, we stock 5 different brands like Walker, Felpro, and Flowtech. 1985 Cadillac Eldorado Exhaust Parts start as low as $1.99!

One of the best ways to find top quality OEM or aftermarket Exhaust Parts is by asking professionals. Short of that, you can shop with confidence thanks to our 61 extensive product reviews on 1985 Cadillac Eldorado Exhaust Parts. Some of the top-rated Exhaust Parts products we carry are Exhaust Bolt and Spring with 1.3 stars and Bracket Bolt On Length 4.5 with 2.0 stars.

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Top-Rated Exhaust Parts Brands For Your 1985 Cadillac Eldorado

Trusted Exhaust Parts OEM and aftermarket product brands are what Advance Auto Parts specializes in. The brands we work with are sure to keep that 1985 Cadillac Eldorado running right for years to come. In our inventory you’ll find brands like Walker, Felpro, Flowtech, and even more.

Popular Flowtech Exhaust Parts

You’ll find popular Flowtech brand products across Exhaust Tips. All are waiting to get your 1985 Cadillac Eldorado back on the road. Some of the top-rated Flowtech products in these categories are:
Terminator; Exhaust Tips
from $85.99
(5)
Terminator; Exhaust Tips
Exhaust Chrome and Stainless Tips

FAQs for 1985 Cadillac Eldorado Exhaust Parts

What are the most purchased Exhaust Parts for the 1985 Cadillac Eldorado?

Out of 22 Exhaust Parts for the 1985 Cadillac Eldorado, the most popular in our inventory are:
Exhaust Pipe Flange Gasket
from $10.29
(3)
Exhaust Pipe Flange Gasket
Exhaust Pipe and Flange Gaskets
Sound Solution Muffler
from $64.99
(2)
Sound Solution Muffler
Mufflers
Exhaust Manifold Gasket Set
from $11.49
(1)
Exhaust Manifold Gasket Set
Exhaust Manifold Gaskets

What are the top-rated 1985 Cadillac Eldorado Exhaust Parts?

Top-rated Exhaust Parts for your 1985 Cadillac Eldorado based on customer reviews/ratings are:
Exhaust Bolt and Spring
from $17.29
(3)
Exhaust Bolt and Spring
“Bolts too long, could not use. Had to grind down the springs to allow the nut to catch the old bolts.”
Bracket Bolt On Length 4.5
from $10.99
(2)
Bracket Bolt On Length 4.5
“Passing on some lessons learned. If you look at Walker schematic for 1981 – 1985 Astro/Safari vans with 4.3 there are some “gotchas”. 1st is the “y””